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I wonder if any of these ideas made it off the ground...


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Yes I think we should give the region more time maybe two weeks, this area is not crater more than I.

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Iceman, the Payson area is the original area of this post too.

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On the left hand side of the picture, there is a 'landing light' kind of thing which has a square structure to it on the side of the 'cliff'. It is a white pixel area among darker pixels. That is some kind of anomalous machine too.

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Blurry picture of the 'balls' under the left wing is here along with two pillars at either end marked in red arrows.


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Another found. Possibly coming down from the shelter in the rocks above. To the bottom left you can see the 'stand' that it will be placed on. This is an interesting addition to our information on 'delta wing' things.

Also, there appears to be a loading ramp on the left hand side of it too and I am not quite sure what the white blob at the back on the right is, but there is a line of round 'balls' in the black shadow under the delta's left wing. (on the right as we look at it). These 'balls' are not showing in this picture.

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My thanks goes to O'Brien for drawing my attention to this photograph in another thread about something else...



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Check out this one too. Delta wing thing in lower right. "Preparing for takeoff"


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qbull, I lined the gif up to rotate on the curious "delta wing" shaped object.  It seems to be the most interesting object in the pic.  I like your line of thought and I think we should keep our eyes open for anything similar to this.  We are just beginning to explore Mars and we have no idea what lifeforms (if there are any) may be like on Mars, and we should be open to consider anything.

(Drawbacks are pretty obvious, but maybe they should be stated for those who think that we think this is conclusively a moth of some sort:  The object is very similar in tone, texture, and color to the surrounding rock.  Could this be natural camouflage?  Possibly - but unless we find more, the assumption is that this is just a broken rock, and nothing more).






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that's what i am trying to figure out, logic dictates it is a shield of some kind.

yes, like a snail or turtle.

there are pics that show what is underneath, it reminds me of a snail more than anything.

but we don't know if they move, they could be stationary, like a mushroom.


i have pics that look like they do move and disturb the soil but no footprints, so to speak.

if they live, they can die. so you might be right, gmantoo.

that pic has many in it. oriented the same way, some could argue that it is erosion but with other pics it doesn't seem likely.

the focus of the gif seems to be the big delta, marsrocks. do you think?

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You know.... I think that this possibly, might be one of those delta-wing things in REALLY close detail. Look at the 'scales' on it. I could be mistaken but NASA has taken a photo of this 13 filters, so that, to me, indicates that it is important.

The trouble is that the rock in the top of the photograph is exactly like it (which suggests that it is just rock). However, what caught my eye was that the middle of these delta-wing things have a V shape (look at the top photograph) looks like what is at the right hand end of this one. I just wonder if it could be made from rock and carried on their backs like a snail. Maybe protecting them from the sun/radiation etc (I know this is getting too far out there on the edge of sanity!) Maybe I am just mistaken?

If it is one, then it is broken/dead.

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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p749.html



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What amazes me about this animated picture is the obvious rabbit or hare with the ears in the form of a Y which also appears to have moved. smile.gif

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Look at this thing on top of the rock.  Texture and color are the same as that of the rock, but maybe it fits into this category. Spirit sol 653:


















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Certain types of moth on Earth looks like this, dont they. I wonder if they fly? The last picture in particular seems to have a 'v' in the middle of the trailing edge and the sides appear higher than the dark middle bit of the 'V'.

We have seen the underneath in the 'earth moving photo' and it does not appear to be attached to an animal (but I could be wrong). It seems to be more like a machine but what are the sizes? It is difficult to get comparisons for some of these things as they are photographed both near and far away from the rovers.


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Interesting. 

Here are some other small triangular shaped objects for comparison.

Some are better than others:


















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hey gmantoo,

i keep looking for tracks myself but if nasa covers anything, tracks would be first.


can't have a rock leaving footprints, eh?


as to mode of transport, i believe they crawl like it looks.

the delta shape might give it stability in a storm, also could be a shell top or a solar bio panel or
both besides protection.

given the various "looks" of the delti, i would say they would be different ages. duh!

whether we could deduce a sex, i would not bet on it, yet. if there are sexes!

check out my avatar for the snake, it over the right shoulder of the "tortoise" (sp)








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Yes, there do seem to be a lot there. I wonder if they are like hang gliders? As a means of transport without the motor that we have. Maybe they have a different propulsion method(probably). Perhaps they are like cars are, to us.

Water running down the slope? I have a feeling that these are tracks of some kind as they have to get to these delta-g things somehow. I also think that there is a lot smudged out on this photo. I feel that there should be lots of tracks and there are virtually none.

The other thing I suppose is that if the martians were snake-people, then maybe they dont make much of a track because their weight is spread lengthwise whereas ours is spread vertically.

There are quite a few snakes in this picture.

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whoo hooo!

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I vote we call them delta-g's in honour of the members that found them ?

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Yep, that delta thingy is pretty cool. Unusual upright position again if its a rock confuse



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sorry, i don't know how to get the pics bigger.

i don't know what these things are, animal, veg or maybe mineral.


but there are many.

this pic has the most at 1 spot at the same time that i've seen.


we might be really on to identifying/documenting a live martian life form.


but i won't jump the gun yet.

awesome work gmantoo!!!!





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awesome!

found 2 or 3 more just to the right of the oval circle.

and a little one, maybe to the left of the big one.

great pic!!!

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gmantoo-

My first thought of the "delta" shaped object, is a flying insect.  The tracks coming from the cracks looks like (water?) has ran down the slope.  Which means, this would be a good place for insects to thrive. ( At least it would be here on earth)  What I find most intriguing about this is; we have now found multiple upright "delta" winged objects in multiple locations.

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There is lots of stuff in this one. I have circled some of the things, but there are snakes, and delta-wings, and ropes(far left side) or pipes.

Also there appears to be a couple of delta wing docking stations and I reckon they pull them up and down the slope because there are tracks up to the caves. If you lighten the photo you can see things in some caves or underneath some of the rock overhangs too.

Much has been smudged out in a very amateur way with black paintbrush and cursor, you'll see what I mean when you look.

Seems like on the top of the cliff, there is a whole community living and working there. In fact all around this area there is lots of activity.

For some reason the post image is not displaying (for me, anyway) so here is the context image url.

This photograph 1P194676347EFF645NP2545R2M1 is version 1 of a photograph produced for M - MIPL (OPGS) at JPL on Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:44 (Sol 749).
It was taken with the PANCAM, through the Right camera, using a 754nm (20nm bandpass) (red) filter on the Mars Rover Opportunity.

It is a full frame EDR picture which is raw, is NOT liniarised, and is NOT thumbnail sized

The picture was taken at site number 64 on drive number 5N, and the command sequence number P2545 to take the picture was instructed by PMA & Remote Sensing instr. (Pancam, Navcam, Hazcam, MI, Mini-TES) and belongs to the group 2000 through 2899 - Pancam sequences

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