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Aside from After You (if that counts) and a couple of collaborations, there appears to have been nothing recorded post Further Complications as Jarvis or Pulp or Relaxed Muscle.   Will there be another record this decade? or ever?  Is Pulp/Jarvis/Relaxed Muscle over?



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Can't believe it has been six years. That's wild. But then the reunion will have taken a lot of time (two or three of those years?) and energy. Another year without word though and one'd certainly start to wonder. Hopefully what results bares the mark of such long gestation - and his reimmersion in the Pulp canon can't have hurt either...

That said, reimmersion in the Pulp canon and the success of the reunion has certainly set a high watermark. It'd intimidate the best of them, following that kind of response up. Not to mention the pop-perfection of the tunes he was belting out. I find it hard to believe that Jarvis would suffer stage fright though, after all he and his band has achieved, and his 'national treasure' (ugh) status.

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In the meantime, imagine for a moment if the vaults were opened, and all parties involved decide to put all the unreleased stuff out...

Meant to post this months and months ago, but never got round to it (a round tuit?). So, anyway,  one boring day at work, I geeked this up:

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I tried a few different 'Pulp' fonts Pulp for the text. What I like about this one is that the title ''Lipgloss, Cigarettes...'' is actually punctuated by commas and not full-stops which looks the case in the picture. On sleeve-notes and related missives to the fans, public etc. Jarvis/Pulp do like to use full-stops for effect i.e. in short sentences so I think the title probably does work best with the dots. 

The period in question should also be 1981-2000, not 1980 and ideally the lips would be centred but I can't find the original file I used to edit the picture (which originally comes from a book collecting magazine covers of Nova magazine - the fashion publication that inspired the Different Class look.

And sorry for the blue text in the tracklistings but white came out as almost invisible.

 

*Tracks in bold are those that have never been released in any form

 

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DISC 1

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(Ken Patten Demo '81)
 
1. What Do You Say?
2. Please Don't Worry
3. Wishful Thinking
4. Turkey Mombo Momma
 
(Rotherham Demo '82)
 
5. How Could You Leave Me?
6. Why Live?
7. Teen Angst
8. Barefoot In The Park
 
(Spice Demo, '82)
 
9. Sickly Grin
10. The Heat Of The Day
11. Taking The Plunge/Sink Or Swim (whichever version from Spice/It Session which wasn't released on the It reissue in 2012)
 
(LIVE 16th Jan 1982 in Bath - 10 tracks) http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/Live16January1982BathUniversity
 
 
22. Everybody's Problem
23. There Was
 
 
*********
DISC 2
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(Vibrasound, Sheff 1984)
 
1. I Want You
2. Coy Mistress
3. Maureen
4. Little Girl
 
(Sudan Gerri, Sheff 1984)
 
4. Don't You Know
5. Anorexic Beauty
6. Take You Back
7. The Will To Power
8. Simultaneous
9. Little Girl
10. Take You Back
11. Srpski Jeb
12. Cousins
13. Maureen
14. Blue Glow
15. Silence
 
(Ping Pong Jerry)
 
16.The Mark of the Devil
17. Back In LA
18. Simultaneous
19. Maureen
20. Anorexic Beauty
 
 
********
DISC 3
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(FON, Sheff 1987)
 
1. Don't You Want Me Anymore?
2. Rattlesnake
 
(FON Dec 1987)
 
3. Death Comes To Town
 
(The Demo, Priory, Sheff 1989)
 
4. She's Dead
5. Down By The River
6. Love Is Blind
7. Death II
8. Death III
9. Separations
 
(Separations LP Sessions, FON Aug 1989)
 
10. Going Back To Find Her (instrumental only?)
 
(LIVE The Day That Never Happened Aug 1988 - 12 tracks) http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/Live8August1988TheLeadmillSheffield
 
 
********
DISC 4
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(FON, Sheff, Jan 1992)
 
1. OU
2. Space
3. Live On
4. Babies
 
(Island, London, May 1992)
 
5. Razzmatazz
6. Happy Endings
7. Your Sister's Clothes
 
(Axis, Sheff, Jul 1993)
 
8. Lipgloss
 
(Brittania Row, London Jul 1993)
 
9. Have You Seen Her Lately?
10. Lipgloss (Ian Broudie Remix)
 
His'n'Hers Demos, Axis, Sheff, Sep 1993
 
11. Joyriders
12. DYRTFT?
13. David's Last Summer
 
LP Sessions, Brittania Row, 1993/94
 
14. Live On
15. Pink Glove (Remix)
 
(LIVE Highbury Garage Dec 1993? (Or any well-recorded gig during this period) 
 
 
********
DISC 5
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(Axis, Sheff, Jun 1995)
 
1. Misshapes
2. Sorted For E's & Whizz
3. Something Changed
4. FEELING CALLED LOVE
5. Gloria
6. Live Bed Show
7. I Spy
 
 Fortress Studio, London, Jan 1997
 
8. I'm A Man
9. The Fear
10. We Are The Boyz
11. TV Movie
12. Party Hard
13. Sex Cymbals
14. Grown Ups (Instrumental Only)
 
 
********
DISC 6
********
 
Wessex Demos, Oct 1999
 
1. The Birds In Your Garden
2. Darren
3. Bob Lind
4. Yesterday
5. The Quiet Revolution
6. Wickerman
7. Cuckoo
8. Got To Have Love (instrumental only)
 
Wessex, Mar 2000
 
9. After You
10. M'Lady
11. Grandfather's Nursery
12. The Performance of a Lifetime
13. St Just
14. Got To Have Love (vox)
 
The Depot, London, May 2000
 
15. Love You Baby
16. Six String
17. My Mistake
18. Last Song In The World
19. Medieval Owl
20. Candy's Spectre
21. Disco Too Disco
22. Jungle Rumble
23. Dream Galaxy
 
Cosford Mills Surrey, Jun 2000
 
24. Weeds
25. Sunrise
26. Bad Cover Version
27. Birds
28. Forever In My Dreams
 
 
*The last disc (taking in the We Love Life era) could probably be stretched over two discs. I also like the way Pulp's most commercially successful two album eras are crammed onto one disc. You could stick on any of a multitude of professionally recorded shows between 1995 and 1998 on to flesh that out but most of us have heard/seen them by now or they are mostly easy to find if not. Something like this would be aimed at the few hundred/thousand of us completists/curious. 
 
Such a Pulp 'anthology' will likely never happen for different reasons (lack of interest possibly from band as much as public, too many rights-holders involved etc.)
 
I do think Different Class will probably get a super-deluxe treatment at some stage, maybe later this year for its 20th though we likely we would have heard whispers by now. On such a release they could include the demos from that period not yet released and could also bung-in a full audio/video release of the Glastonbury '95 performance. The twelve alternate covers for the album would also provide material to use when ''styling'' such a product.
 
And as the 1999-2000 period contains such a large amount of unreleased songs, you would have to think they will turn-up in some form one day.  

 



-- Edited by Eamonn on Tuesday 30th of June 2015 10:21:39 AM

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Phew, just imagine... 180g vinyl, of course...

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Eamonn wrote:

 In the meantime, imagine for a moment if the vaults were opened, and all parties involved decide to put all the unreleased stuff out...


There were a clutch of those with the three deluxe editions and Pulp Peel Sessions.  I don't know how well they sold, but given people don't buy that many CDs or LPs these days they may not even have been commercially viable so a rarities project would be unlikely.  If there was a time to go back then it was during the last tour when to be fair to Pulp they didn't even look to capitalise on the interest with a hits compilation.

Having followed Pulp for over twenty years now, the gaps between recordings aren't that surprising. It has been over a year since the line was effectively drawn under Pulp with the movie.    There doesn't appear to be anything happening aside from the odd collaboration, so I just wonder if that is it.   



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That said, reimmersion in the Pulp canon and the success of the reunion has certainly set a high watermark. It'd intimidate the best of them, following that kind of response up. Not to mention the pop-perfection of the tunes he was belting out. I find it hard to believe that Jarvis would suffer stage fright though, after all he and his band has achieved, and his 'national treasure' (ugh) status.


I understand your point.  I don't think that Jarvis could record anything that would have the impact of the Pulp albums in the same way that The Magic Whip is not going to have the same impact as Parklife.  It's a different time, but considering how much Jarvis strived to be a rock star, making music now seems to be the thing he doesn't particularly worry about.   His peers are still making new music, yet after the initial burst of the two solo albums, there has been silence on the creative front.

May 2014 -  ' this year I'm taking a break from the radio show to find out if I've got any interesting songs left to write or whether I've written them all.'

Maybe he has....



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I'll never stop hoping they reconvene at some point, Jarvis said in one of the last interviews that they would have to jam some stuff out if they did that. A new Pulp album would be a heavy hitter and probably reach the level of anticipation that The Magic Whip did, After You was just excellent and a full new album of stuff like that would be killer. The social commentary provided by Pulp during their initial tenure is sorely missing in today's music. Any new music from Jarvis would be great, but I guess I'll never stop hoping for more Pulp again.

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You never know - some stuff from 1982 might become available
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/music/pulp-s-history-remastered-as-wheels-of-sheffield-steel-city-spin-again-1-7060521

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I had thought of putting that into my It-era Disc 1 line-up Ian, but I couldn't quite remember which gig it was and couldn't find that article you linked to for me to check.

I think the Bath one, being a month earlier, and also the first documented moment where Jarvis and Russell's (and therefore Pulp proper) musical relationship becomes evident (during the intro to the one song we do have from that gig, I Scrubbed The Crabs...when Jarvis dedicated it to ''Russell the muscle'') would be a more fitting choice. Obvs would be delighted with either.

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They should just reunite again and shake up the setlists a bit more. The common people need to hear 80s Pulp. They could re-record old demos like Back in LA.

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shotoki wrote:

They should just reunite again and shake up the setlists a bit more. The common people need to hear 80s Pulp. They could re-record old demos like Back in LA.


I don't think there is any point in going back. Time for something new rather than re-recording thirty year old songs.   I'm not sure there is much of an audience for 1980s Pulp even if it would be quite a fascinating prospect.   I suppose Jarvis could perform in a wheelchair.



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