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Keshire


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I'm still alive just really busy. I proposed This idea to the OJP. If Razor or ReneGade don't get to it, I may. Anyways here's the idea.

Customizable Player hilts.

JKA handles hilt models much like player models.

you can have several meshes in a glm and you can turn surfaces on/off through the skin files.

I just got done setting up a saber For InsaneSith that has two sabers in one glm seperated by skin files. The .sab has two entries pointing to these seperate skins.

I propose we expand on this by making a Customizable Player Hilt section.

Here we can add several things

a shaft category, buttons, add-ons

Sounds?
Blade Styles?
Draw and holster Anims?
Were you holster it? (If the Holster Offset code is written)
etc
etc....

As you can see this has quite a few bonuses.

Being as this is THE saber smith site. For you budding smiths as well. Just keep this in mind. I'm sure it will be a reality some time int he near future.

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Spiffy


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keshire, that would be a awsome idea. Personally I think that it would improve JKJA alot.  I'm surprised you haven't thought of this sooner with your brilliant mind.

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that does sound like a kick ass idea kesh.. but how do you its gonna be pulled off? i dont know how things like that would work.. can it be done without playing with the source?  or can it be done by say a seperate program that would automaticly customize the hilt and pk3 it for you before running the game/during the game via alternate window? 

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Keshire


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It'll be done via code.

I'm hoping to put in a new saber type called SABER_CUSTOM for the .sab

it'll pull skin files labeled
main_whatever
external_whatever
and AddOn_whatever

I'll pull out some of the external flags in the .sab's and make them menu items, as well as grab some new sounds and bladetypes.

So you'll see a new icon similar to the Custom Player next to the sabers access to these new menu's.

For those that don't have the mod they won't have access to any options that don't have their own skin.

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Keshire


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For starting sabers for this mod. I'm goign to be making Race specific Hilts. Like Rodian, Keldor, human, etc. Each with unique options that their race would use. Like the zabrak hilt would be a staff with different arcane markings and spikes and whatnot. While the Human saber would have different variations of what we've seen from the Obi-wan line of sabers. (which include every one's whose been built similar) etc etc etc. Code-Wise I have this planned. Menu's are up in the air. As well as saber designs.

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Apocalypse


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While your doing the coding for that, do you think you could get the SABER_TRIDENT and SABER_LANCE types working? I know I saw them in the game coding somewhere, just not sure which file.

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Keshire


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Looks like they should work to me. They modify blade length and radius. The core of the code is tied to the UI.

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We could possibly make long blades but with smaller damage scaled to it. To balance the length and strength out so that you can't just get a saber with a huge blade that would kill instantly. just a thought

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Darth Doughnut


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i think that can be done currently with the SAB files...   right kesh? 

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"i think that can be done currently with the SAB files...   right kesh?  "
yes. You can change the size of the blade and the damage scale. I was merely stating that to keep the balance while having a larger blade we could dullen the saber damage scale. :)

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Apocalypse


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Or you could simply change the damage radius :P

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Keshire


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Don't get me started on those saber flags that alter the game balance. They should've never been externalized. The only thing that should really be a flag is the aesthetic stuff, like everything not related to *whatever*scale and splash*whatever*

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http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/20043251421388266010229.jpg
Ignore the text at the bottom I need to add a new string for it.
 

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/20043257512711676098872.jpg
This was just a template that I wrote some ideas down on.

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looking good. :)

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:) lemme know if you need any help kesh..  im **** for programming.. but ill help in any way i can

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Keshire


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Thats easy. Start combining all your sabers that are variations on a theme. Or start making them ;)

I'm seperating all my meshes by the core of the saber, activators or buttons, and any misc objects (like spikes).

http://www.thelightsaber.com/WorkFolder/SmallSFW/AalyaSecura5SM.jpg
http://www.thelightsaber.com/WorkFolder/SmallSFW/AdiGalliaRedSM.jpg

http://www.thelightsaber.com/WorkFolder/SmallSFW/VaderANHSM.jpg
http://www.thelightsaber.com/WorkFolder/SmallSFW/VaderEBSSM.jpg
http://www.thelightsaber.com/histories/DarthVader3.jpg

So you'd combine the model's that look similar. You'll notice with vader's saber the activator is in different spots, more buttons, different grips etc. colors can be done with different textures though.

I'm goignto combine that whole skywalker line of sabers, as well as the jedi council sabers ! And the classic Obi-wan type sabers.

I've got 8 jedi council sabers combined, 15 more to go...

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