Post Info TOPIC: Bangalore-Mysore (snail-paced) Expressway
gvk

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A recent media presentation on the Expressway (11 years on, and still in the making) by Mr Ashok K Kheny, MD, Nandi Infrastructure Corridor Project, evoked, as the cliché goes, a mixed reaction from Mysore’s elite. A senior finance & business journalist, Mr Gouri Satya, who attended the presentation, was all praise for Mr Kheny’s fighting spirit, and said: “He had to obtain 10,500 approvals for the project and face 330 law suits”. Mr Vijendra Rao and Dr. Bhamy Shenoy, who didn’t attend the presentation, shared Mr Satya’s enthusiasm for Mr Kheny’s dogged determination (to read their comments click on ‘Blog That Empowers People’).


 


Mr Bapu Satyanarayana, ex-chief engineer, Union Surface Transport ministry, has an alternate viewpoint that he puts across in his blog, Bangalore-Mysore Expressway, and would like to hear from others who heard Mr Kheny’s presentation.  


 


He says in a blog entry : “I did not clap, not because that there was anything wrong about the project but I was all the while wondering how it would impact on Mysore's future. It also kept me wondering how the cream of the elite, including many professionals, can be so easily led astray to lap every detail without questioning. He seemed to have answer for everything and true it was a grand performance alright. It reminded me how Amways is lulling the people and spreading charm to trap them. Somehow the picture he was painting was too perfect to be true..click on to Read More


 


 



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gvk

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Mr M B Nagakumar of BAI gives his take in a comment to the item - 'Blog that empowers people' - on Issues & Ideas page, at which the issue of Mr kheney's media presentation was initially raised. Mr Nagakumar cites Mr Kheny as saying that all he got till now in the pursuit of the Expressway project was BP and diabetes... Click on to Read On

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Sudhir Vombatkere

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The Supreme Court’s recent ruling has conclusively removed the hurdles for Nandi Infrastructure Corridor Enterprises (NICE) proceeding with the BMIC Project that had been hanging fire for one reason or another. That the industry lobby is pleased is not surprising, but the taxpayers having to pay because of the Supreme Court’s censure of the State government is sad. At any rate all the politicking and litigation was about whether the real estate involved was legal or excessive. There was never any discussion in recent years whether at all the BMIC Project was necessary or about the people affected by it in terms of displacement or loss of land, house or livelihood.


Educated opposition to the BMIC Project actually began when the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Report - prepared by NICE - revealed that the total affected population in 178 villages was 1,92,000. Later enquiry revealed that only about 20% of the population own land entitling them to compensation, while 80% would have to migrate to towns and cities in search of work. In a best case scenario, with Rs.1 lakh per acre compensation, a 2-acre farmer would earn a mere Rs.12,000 per annum even if he invested the entire amount, putting him and his family into the “under $1 per day” BPL category, with no other source of income. It is difficult to imagine that migrants, whether compensated or not, would ever be grateful to the State for having been forced to migrate. Only the socially blind would not see that growing urban crime, street violence and militancy is directly linked to rural-to-urban migration resulting from development policies that favour the powerful at the cost of the economically weak, who are its victims. The BMIC project is merely another step in the furtherance of such development that can only breed more social unrest and violence.


With the recent large-scale improvements to the existing SH-17 between Bangalore and Mysore, the driving time has been reduced to 120 minutes between the ring roads of Bangalore and Mysore, and with the completion of two bridges, this may be reduced by another 15 minutes. The hype put on the BMIC expressway that the distance can be covered in 90 minutes, deliberately fails to point out that the 111 km expressway is only between the peripheral roads of the two cities. In any case, once the railway line is doubled and electrified, trains every 20 minutes will carry thousands of people between city centres in the same 90 minutes that a car will take between the ring roads. It will also be safer and cheaper.


The arguments against BMIC have always been underplayed and under-exposed at the behest of those with money power. NICE has succeeded only because large projects get the attention of politicians in power for whom the people, especially poor people, are merely the marks that they make on a ballot paper, and it matters naught how they survive.


 (This piece was sent to print  media (Apl.27), in my personal capacity.)



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Capt. Anup Murthy

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While I am a pro-development chap, it is also worthwhile to see what happens to the environment due to large scale projects and how the effects can be mitigated to some extent, i do wonder about people whose lands have been "taken away" at less than market rates, leaving such people landless, homeless and what anyone did to mitigate their miseries.  No pain, no gain some people may say but I have a problem with that. Citizens expressing anguish on this matter must be taken seriously.


As for the Governments objection to the project, that is purely political and if enough money had been exchanged (wink wink), our "son of the soil" and his ilk would not have made anti noises! Their vested interest in anything is purely based on money. As if any politicians cared about the environment or the people who are displaced by large or small projects. This is where we should be anti government and appreciate the stand taken by the SC. The SC should have also one into the dealings of the company with regard to the effects on the environment and the people.


The BAI has done well to bring Mr. Kheny to speak to everyone. I also read how many people have found him to be a fighter and an honest person and so on. While I don't doubt that, it is also not fantastic to have a halo put on his head as there are questions that were either not asked or not replied to. I urge readers to also visit Mr. Bapu Satyanarayana's blog on mymysore.com and hope we can see both sides of the issue.



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gvk

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According to Mr Kheny, "The BMIC project is not an expressway project, but a comprehensive infrastructure corridor project." The project includes 41 km of peripheral road (75 m wide) connecting NH-7-Hosur Road (near Electronic City) to NH-4-Tumkur Road (near Peenya Industrial Area), 9.1 km of Link Road, 111 km of Expressway (connecting Bangalore and Mysore), and 3 km of elevated road (connecting the City Centre to the Link Road), and five self-sustaining townships along the expressway - Article by Poonam Singh in Project Monitor (Feb 7, 2005)

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Dr (Lt Col) Y N I Anand

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This is what I have to say. I have sent it to the press also. In fact I waited this long since I was anticipating some such action as nationalising the BMIC work by the politicians. However, do not be surprised if they retract from the original statement and say that they have been misquoted!

1. Let no one be fooled by the greedy politicians at the helm of affairs in this hapless state called Karnataka. Do not ever be under the illusion either that these people can stall the work altogether. They are incapable of it. Their only grouse is that they are not getting their share, albeit unjustified and illegal, of the pie that the BMIC is going to get sooner or later for their patience, perseverance and hard work. Not that the land allotted is in excess of the actual requirement. That was the job of the government at the time the documents were signed. If ever they succeed in not giving the "Excess Land", be sure that it will be fully "utilised" by these very politicians for their own "development". For that matter, even the BMIC would never have dreamt that the real estate prices would escalate to this extent within a decade! They will wait for their day. After all, "Every Dog Has His Day" is the wise old saying.

2. Coming back to our politicians, from successive governments, that is, they are visionaries in the reverse sense. They are suffering from a condition called "Malignant Myopia". Malignant means incurable and Myopia means shortsightedness. Combined together it means that they are suffering from a high degree of myopia, more than 12 diopters that cannot be cured by ordinary means at present. They can not see anything beyond themselves. Since they are not getting anything for themselves from the project nor are able to stop it altogether, they are here to try their might to delay the project as much as possible. In the bargain they forget that they are causing immense harm to the state and the people.

3. It is time that the Apex Court takes suo moto cognizance of this, castigate the government and issue necessary instructions as to ensure speedy construction of the highway that has been delayed unashamedly solely because of the greed of the politicians. I
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Thanks, Anand, 05 Jun 2006




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shankar prasad

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Dear Friends,


My view as always has been that unless we have a workable alternative we should not comment or take a stand. Same with BMIC.


The number of automobiles that will be plying between Blore and Mysore in the years to come is mind blowing. Our development is based on movement not on local initiative. Our economy encourages movement. Their argument is that if you are not moving then your not dynamic. NRN said in Mysore in one of his lectures. Go to where labour is cheap, Money is abundant, Market is wide so on....


So when we have this kind of an economy we certainly need BMIC kind of a road. What alternative do we have. Yes environment is a factor. But why only BMIC why not talk about it with every car being manufactured, has anybody done any EIA on the number of cars being manufactured in India which will some day be on the roads? Why don't we talk of environment on the use of plastics, on use of CRT monitors, CFC refrigerators, Mining etc etc.,


I remember the kind of opposition we had for the existing Mys Blore upgraded road. But I am sure the very people who had opposed should be travelling more frequently coz of the good road.


My argument is that yes every so called "development project" will have its own opposite repercussion, but our effort should be towards how to overcome this repercussion. Just saying shelve the project is not an answer. If our stand is really this and only this then we should not be part of this development and prefer to stay away from this community in a secluded place.


shanks



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Capt. Anup Murthy

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Good to read Shankars argument. I don't feel that many people are actually against the project. I think some of us are asking relevant questions about what is being done to mitigate any impact on the environment and what is being done to re-settle people who have lost their lands. It is just not the value of land that is in contention, you are taking away somebody's livelihood by force and at less than market rates.


I like development, hell I spent more than half my life watching how developments take place in developed countries and wondering why no one in India was doing the same. The need for faster and more convenient travel is more thana necessity these days and thats why you also need air connectivity for which I m making so much noise in various forums so far. I also agree with shankar on the need for containing environment damage due to the things he has mentioned.


Anyway, who can make a judgement on what is a viable alternative? In Singapore where I am right now, they have built all the roads ways possible, built a fabulous Mass rapid transit system underground, have a light rail system and even then there is congestion. We have none of the above (except congestion) and no one is even talking about inter city transport which is terrible in Bangalore and Mysore (Don't want to talk about the rest of India, not worth it).


In short, we need development and lots of it, we are just stuck with some stupid politicians and only one project that we are talking about. Where are the citizens of Mysore when we need a lot more connectivity? Why not make a stink about double track of the railways line as well, airport, inter city mass transport system etc? BUT, when we do these projects (actually if and when), it is best done when on one side the public interest is taken care of and on the other side, effects on the environment and people who may be displaced are also taken care of.



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gvk

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Capt. Anup Murthy wrote:


 ... they have built all the roads ways possible, built a fabulous Mass rapid transit system underground, have a light rail system and even then there is congestion (in Singapore). We have none of the above (except congestion) and no one is even talking about inter city transport which is terrible in Bangalore and Mysore (Don't want to talk about the rest of India, not worth it). 


That is a well focused point. Any infrastructure dev., and its environmental consequences, to my mind, ought to be viewed in the specific context of the place, its predicament and the times we live in. If one were to view B-M rapid transit project in the context of containment of the "eco-damage" that has already been done to Bangalore's as a result of its eco-advancement, there can hardly be any opposition to the imperative for, not just the Expressway, but an electrified double rail track.


What with the international airport coming up at Bangalore, one could say the need for preemptive development of infrastructure in the Greater Bangalore Region (of which Mysore would become an integral part) gets more pronounced.


 The issue pertaining to loss of livelihood, of those whose land has been acquired, needs to be studied more closely. A start could be made with a census of socio-economic status of families that have had to surrender land. Eco-activists and flag-waving groups would do well to get down to such nitty-gritty. It is not as if the land-losers cannot or would not be able to benefit from the economic spurt a major project would facilitate. Incidentally, I read somewhere Mr Kheny's claim that much of the acquired space was wasteland. Would anyone have figures to contest the claim ?       



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Capt. Anup Murthy

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Good question from Mr. GVK. Does anyone else have any statistics to provide, that specifically mentions how much of the land the project was waste land as Mr. Kheny may have mentioned that much of it was indeed wasteland. In any case, some people think it is unfashionable to make dissenting comments about the project as it would better serve some other people to bulldoze their way through any project without caring what may happen to the individual or the environment that is affected.


Is the land acquisition part of Mr. Kheny's project in the public domain? Can Mr. Kheny himself provide details that can help throw light on how much waste land was involved? Would be nice to get some info from any credible source. As for connectivity, Mysore needs to look beyond just one project, double track, electrification, mass urban transit system, air connectivity are all just as important and I cannot say this often enough. If we are to be different from what happened to bangalore, Infrastucture must be more than just a slogan, it needs to be a "mantra", to be repeated so many times that the guys who we entursted to make it happen, must make it happen and that too, in our life time!



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L Venkata Ranga

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Dear Sir, after I saw your commints, I was going through the web. Just becasuse I wanted to know for many people this project affects?......just for your reference please check this link......http://www.indiatogether.org/campaigns/bmic/bmicfaq.htm
these are some of the points mentioned which is not good for the eco system. Let us see how our government reacts to this


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Capt. Anup Murthy

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If the data on the website is credible, there are many problems. Maybe too late in our country to do anything about anything and the people who want to bulldoze their way through should be happy. It is not their land, livelihood or environment that is affected. Someone else's problem! Why do we care, lets only look after our own need for connectivity. Lets bulldoze the common man. Wah India!

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Bhamy V Shenoy

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There are two aspects to this project. One is the viability and enviornmental aspect of the project. The second aspect is the fulflliment of the contract term having approved the project.

As far as the former, I never thought that our state needed a project to connnect Mysore with Bangalore through an expressway. We should have improved the railway service by double tracking it. Also there was a four lane highway which could have been made world class. This was sound from economic, environmental, and energy security point of view. We should do every thing possible to reduce the use of private vehicles and promote public transportation. We do not achieve it by constructing expressways. Thus my vote was and is against Bangalore Mysore expressway.

Having made the above statement, when it comes to the current NICE project, my feeling regarding the project now is very different. Having committed a monumental blunder of signing the contract, the government should not get back on it. They should not try to put any road block in its implementation since it will only hurt the common man in the final analysis. This is the lesson we should learn from Enron's Dhabol project.

Dhabol was a good project, but implemented completely wrong thanks to the undue intereference by politicians all in the interest of social good. Because of the wrong kind of contract, contract terms became impossible to implement and the state decided not to honor them. As a result it was the common man who finally paid for the shut down of Dhabol directly and indirectly.

Indirectly because once Dhabol investors suffered the fate of contract being not honored, other prosepctive investors hesitated to come forward. It is only those crooked ones who can deal with equally corrupt politicians dared to invest in India. Directly because, when Dhabol was closed down, citizens suffered a power shortage. Also when a plant like Dhabol is closed down, it is the investors most of whom are public sector Indian banks suffered. Foreign bankers either were covered by international arbitratge or some other terms to cover thier losses as per the contract.

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Capt. Anup Murthy

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Reading about SOM reports on the NICE project. The CM it seems has asked Mr. Kheny for an open debate. CM says Kheny tried to "buy" him! Should he take up the gauntlet? Seems farmers are digging up the roads. If thats true, it is the wrong way to protest. If it is not true and Kheny's men are doing it, wow! The halo built around his head by some of our blogger friends may soon disappear!


If it was me and if I had indeed been suppressed by the state government and I had done everything according to the books and never paid a bribe (all claimed by Kheny), I would indeed be delighted to have a public debate in front of the media, with the CM. Well, the gauntlet has been thrown. Lets see if Kheny picks it up or continues a war of the words through the media only.



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gvk

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".....his latest target is the Bangalore-Mysore Infrastructure Corridor project. Somehow, it has to be scuttled. Otherwise, Bangalore and Mysore will get a piece of world-class infrastructure and the people of Bangalore and Mysore will get a little bit of speed and comfort. That Deve Gowda cannot tolerate....Or maybe it is Ashok Kheny, the managing director of the company constructing the corridor, that Deve Gowda cannot stand, because the man is doing something that would be useful to Bangalore and Bangaloreans. " 


From - Why Deve Gowda is Bad for Bangalore - Rediff.com guest column (Business) by S Raghottam



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GVK

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The Hindu (June 17) carries a report on the opening of the first 9-km stretch of the Expressway. No one from the state government was at the inaugural fanfare. Instead, two elderly women who gave away their land for the project were invited to do the honours. Rammakka, 86, was reported as saying, "I gave away my land because the project is sure to benefit the common".


I smell a blatant PR job there. Subtlity doesn't appear to be our PR strength. The very presence of the two elderly women was PR statement, I thought, without anyone having to put words in their mouth.


Who else said what at the function:


Mr D K Shivakumar, ex-minister, : "Private-public partnerships are welcome as long as the Government has an upper hand. The ideal partnership would be in the ratio of 51:49,"


Mr N L Narendra Babu, MLA :"The stretch has been inaugurated without the presence of the head of the State. It is not a good omen." 


Mr T Mohandas Pai, Infosys :"The State should not intervene. The project should be completed by NICE. Just as the National Highway Authority of India executes projects through the private sector, the State should allow the private sector to handle such projects," 


The Nandi Infrastructure Corridor Enterprises (NICE) : "The project is the only infrastructure project with a gestation period of 10 years. It has gone through seven Prime Ministers, four Chief Ministers (Karnataka), 15 Ministers for Public Works, eight Chief Secretaries, eight secretaries of the Department of Public Work, six secretaries of the Department of Urban Development, 10 secretaries of Department of Infrastructure and over 350 IAS officers. It has been discussed in over 100 Cabinet meetings and has been signed by 10,500 government officials, making it the most scrutinised project in the State." ....see The Hindu report.



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Pls read the report on this project in The Hindu dated 24th January 2007. It clearly exposes the "Real Intention" of NICE and Mr. Ashok Kheny. If I am given ownership to sell Government acquired lands at rock bottom prices at prevailing Market prices on each side of the Toll road even before completion of the toll road PLUS enjoy 30 years of toll collection before handing over the toll roads back, I am ready to undertake similar projects all over India.

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