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Curt wrote:




Q.10) Provide more material on the “Five Civilized Tribes”, partically the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trial of Tears”.


 


         The Five Civilized Tribes of Native Americans were the Cherokee, Chicasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminoles. These tribes were considered civilized because they developed some of the white man’s  customs. Some became farmers of plantations and others became artisans of certain crafts. The most information we have from the lives of these nations during this time is from the Cherokee tribe. The Cherokees actually tried hard to mix in with the Southern cultures. Many of them began adopting their methods of lifestyle, work and religion (to an extent). Then there were troubles between the natives and the whites because the natives land where they were on were supposedly said to contain gold and had rich fertile soil for the cash crops grown in the South.


         In the court case The Cherokee Tribe v. The State of Georgia it is ruled that the natives have the right to their land but they will not be defended by any American soilders. From then on the natives were harassed and attacked by many whites to scare them off their own land. Finally Andrew Jackson passed his Indian Removal Act which was passed in Congress in 1830. The army then gave the natives two choices: leave the land in peace or be forced to leave. Many of the Native Americans were actually were actually raided by U.S. soilders and from their they were forced to leave on their way to this unknown land made for them.


         Along this Trial of Tears to the newly chartered Indian Territory, many of the native people died of starvation and disease. When they all settled on the new land it commenced 15 years of civil war between all Cherokee nations. From the survivors of the civil war between their own nation either got involved with the California Gold Rush and from their the Civil War. This occurred with many of the other tribes as well. Conflict arose due to the change of enviorment and along with the mixture of the Indian culturesd as a whole. These tribes also took place in the Civil War (Confederates) and created their own type of tribal government. The removal of the Native Americans severly devistated their tribes in the ways they lived before their removal and the lifestyles they now had to deal with after the removal. In conclusion the the removalof the Five Civil Tribes ruined their tribal ways in their own lands nad made them attempt to adapt to this new land where many problems arose for the tribes removed.


 

Samuel Carter, author of Cherokee Sunset, writes: "Then ... there came the reign of terror. From the jagged-walled stockades the troops fanned out across the Nation, invading every hamlet, every cabin, rooting out the inhabitants at bayonet point. The Cherokees hardly had time to realize what was happening as they were prodded like so many sheep toward the concentration camps, threatened with knives and pistols, beaten with rifle butts if they resisted." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee




Was the Indian removal act politically just? consider the court cases like Cherokee vs. the State of Georgia and the Amendments  to the states.


-i think personally you did a great job writing it try writing more on the American opinion on this topic too also what were the conflicts that the indian removal caused the indians to have?explain more thougroughly



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Makeda wrote:



The election of 1840 was between Martin Van Buren and William Henry Harrison. Van Buren being the Democrats choice and Harrison the Whigs. Both parties tried to blacken each other’s candidates name in many different ways. The Whigs, for example, renamed Martin Van Buren “Martin Van Ruin.” One Democratic reporter called Harrison “ a poor farmer who should be content with a pension, a log cabin and a barrel of hard cider” as a way to insult the western candidate. The Whigs turned this around and portrayed Harrison as a hardworking farmer who was for the poor man. They said he was there to cleanse the white house of Jackson’s corrupt spoils men. The Whigs served cider at rallies to get people to like Harrison more. They also decided not to write an official platform, as a way to gain more votes. Some supporters of the Whig party, to discredit Van Buren, wrote poems about his aristocratic lifestyle and drew pictures of him choking on hard cider. In the end Harrison was victorious, beating Van Buren with an electoral margin of 234 to 60.





Makeda,


When you said: The Whigs, for example, renamed Martin Van Buren “Martin Van Ruin.”  What did Van Buren ruin?


Secondly, when you also said: The Whigs turned this around and portrayed Harrison as a hardworking farmer who was for the poor man. They said he was there to cleanse the white house of Jackson’s corrupt spoils men.


Who are the corrupt men that they are claiming to cleanse?


 


Great post though!  You showed me some info. I did not know...thanks!



Butchie

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Curt: Do you agree with how the indians were treated?
If you could do something different what would you do?
What could the indian tribes have done so they weren't moved to another territory?



David Souza

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David Souza     AP U.S. History     2-304  A      Ch. 13, Q6


6. Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.


For the election of 1840, the Whigs had nominated William Henry Harrison for president and John Tyler for vice president. The Democrats chose President Martin Van Buren to run for re-election. Harrison at the time was 67, and the Democrats tried to say he was too old to run for president. The Democrats called him “granny”, meaning he was senile. The Democrats also attacked Harrison in their newspaper saying, "Give him a barrel of hard cider, and ... a pension of two thousand [dollars] a year ... and ... he will sit the remainder of his days in his log cabin." Harrison used what the Democrats said about him as his campaign slogan saying this made him like the common people. Harrison also said he was from the west and called Van Buren a wealthy snob. The panic of 1837 occurred during Van Buren’s presidency causing great suffering for those left with the worthless paper money. Harrison said to the American people this happened because Van Buren was a wealthy snob and he allowed it happen because he did not care for them, accusing Van Buren of losing contact with the common people. In reality, Harrison was the one who was wealthy and did not care about the common people, and Van Buren came from poor lower class people like most all the other Americans. The Whigs ran with the Democrats’ accusation and spun it around to make Harrison look like a common person, and so he would look out for common people. Van Buren lost the presidency because of the panic of 1837 and having Harrison call him a wealthy snob who did not care for the common people. In the end, Harrison won the presidency, but died while only office for a month of pneumonia.


 


 


Sources:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign



mre

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Assignments due today.

Amanda

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The Whigs, who wanted to give the public what they wanted, took advantage of this statement and declared that Harrison was “the log cabin and hard cider candidate.”  They said that he was a man of the common people from the rough-and-tumble West.  They also depicted Van Buren as a wealthy snob who was out of touch with the people.  This in fact was false and neither portrayal was accurate.    Harrison came from a wealthy and prominent family and had many aristocratic qualities while Van Buren was from a poor, hard working family who was a firm believer in Democratic values.  The Whigs in this election used this statement as propaganda to help them win the election.  In fact they did they did win the election by a landslide in the electoral votes, which were 234 for Harrison and 60 for Van Buren, but the popular vote was close, which was 1,275,612 for Harrison and 1,130,033 for Van Buren. 


 


 







Do you think that the political tactics of the Whigs in the election of 1840 could have worked just as well for the Democrats, if they had tried to show that they truly had more in common with the average citizen, rather than trying to just hurt the Whig's cause?

jay

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forgot my source


http://smokymtnmall.com/mall/cindians.html



jay

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The Cherokee Indians live in pretty small communities, mostly near river bottoms with rich soil. Each village had about 50 log and mud huts grouped around the center of the town, called the Council House. That was where ceremonies and public meetings were held. The council house was seven-sided to represent the seven separate tribes of Cherokee: Bird, Paint, Deer, Wolf, Blue, Long Hair, and Wild Potato. White settlers began to arrive and the Cherokee culture began to see changes; good and bad. Many Cherokee died of disease and also war brought on by white settlers. They were also manipulated into signing away a great deal of their land. On the positive side, the Cherokees began to pick up some of the characteristics of the white culture. They developed their own democratic government with a chief, vice chief, and 32 council members who were elected by the members of the tribe. They also created their own constitution and code of laws. A silversmith named Sequoyah invented a writing system, and within two years almost every Indian could read and write. They also began publishing their own newspaper. After a few years, the Cherokee Indians were considered the most civilized tribe.


 


 In 1828, gold was discovered on Cherokee territory. Andrew Jackson, wanting this gold, established the Indian Removal Act in 1830. They were to be forcibly moved east of the Mississippi river to Oklahoma and surrounding territory, soon to be known as Indian Territory. About 14,000 Cherokees began that painful, six-month journey. About 4,000 of them died of cold, hunger, and disease. Altogether, about 100,000 natives, from the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Seminole and Choctaw) survived the journey. The Cherokee Indians now live in peace, but will never forget the pain and suffering their ancestors went through.


 


jay-leesa



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Krystal F. wrote:



William Henry Harrison was the first Whig to campaign for office.  He and vice president nominee John Tyler had a slogan- “Tippecanoe and Tyler too.” This referred to Harrison’s victory over Shawnee Indians at an Ohio river.  Some Democrats made fun of Harrison because he was old to be president.  In one of the Democratic newspapers it said to just give him a barrel of hard cider and he’ll live the rest of his life in a log cabin. 


The Whigs then called Harrison the “log cabin and hard cider candidate.”  They also said that his Democratic opponent Martin Van Buren was a rich snob, when in reality, he came from a poor family.  Harrison was really the rich one.


In the end, the Whigs proved to be well-accomplished campaigners, because Harrison won the election.  He and the Whigs turned the Democrats’ words around to defeat them tremendously.   


                                                                                   _Krystal 





Direct and to-the-point, very nice Krystal! I just have 2 quick questions: (a) How did Harrison feel about being called the "log-cabin and hard-cider" candidate? and (b) Was Harrison's wealth a factor in his victory? because the way you said it I was thinking Van Buren was going to win

peace



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6. Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.

Democrats in the election of 1840 used the “log-cabin and hard-cider” tactic expecting that it would turn voters away from the Whig party. They thought voters would view Whigs as uneducated politicians who would not take political office seriously. Referring to the Whigs as “log-cabin and hard-cider” began when a Democratic newspaper said that William Henry Harrison, the Whig candidate for president, would be happy with “a barrel of hard cider, and … a pension of two thousand [dollars] a year… and … he will sit the remainder of his days in his log cabin.” Democrats expected this to hurt the Whigs’ political cause, but the Whigs used it to their advantage. They used it to remind people of a time when they still lived in log cabins, used log cabins as schoolhouses and churches, it ultimately strengthened the image the voters had of the Whig party. The Whigs used the log cabin as their slogan in order to portray themselves as if they were just like the common man. The Whigs used this slogan to take a different approach toward Harrison, who was not “of the common man” at all; he owned a sixteen-room mansion and came from a wealthy Virginia family. They created songs in order to give the appearance that they were similar to the common man, although Harrison was not at all. They also used their common man approach against the Democrats, by portraying Martin Van Buren, the Democratic nominee for president, as a wealthy snob who cared little for the common people. Van Buren though, did in fact come from poor, working class family. Despite the fact that Van Buren had come from much of the same upbringing as a majority of the people in the United States, he was blamed for the economic depression of 1837 and was seen as indifferent to the struggles of the average citizen. This view of the Democrats helped the Whigs win the popular vote and 79% of the electoral votes. The Democrats plan of using the "log cabin and hard cider" to take votes away from the Whigs ultimately hurt them and made the Whigs appear to be more familiar to the lives of the average American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign
http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Union/Unp3c12.htm
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/americavotes/


kp

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In response to Brandi’s question - Even though both the Chickasaws and the Choctaws fought on the Confederate side I do not think it had anything to do with their perspective on signing a removal treaty and being less resistant unlike the three other tribes - Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole. Through the information that I found and from what I have read I feel as if all five tribes whether resistant or not did feel strongly on keeping what was rightfully theirs. In my opinion, the Chickasaws and Choctaws decided to sign the treaty because they not only saw the removal as inevitable as I had stated before but also because when they made an attempt to stay put they were cheating out of their holding by land-hungry whites. Also, when these tribes signed these removal treaties they were promised that the federal government would provide suitable western land and would protect them. Unfortunately, they backed down on their promise and both tribes were forced out of their land. On the other hand, the Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole had the willpower to fight the system that was taking away what they believed to be not only their land but their flourishing culture as well. Yes, many of their people died during the Seminole Wars, but once again these tribes believed in fighting for what was theirs. Just like African Americans, slaves, and women, these people were discriminated and treated like children, they wanted their freedom that they had earned and the land that they had worked for. I wish I could better explain their motives, but I wasn’t there myself - thank god! LoL.




crystal

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in reference to the Supreme Court decision, i'm understanding that they supported the Cherokee?
i seem to have differing information.

but over all, we have similar information.


Crystal

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10. Provide more material on the “five civilized tribes,” particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


The “five civilized tribes” is referring to the five Native American tribes, the Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, and Seminole. These tribes were considered “civilized” because they had adopted many customs of the white society and had good relations with their neighbors. These tribes were relocated from their homes east of the Mississippi River to the Indian Territory, now Oklahoma. This removal was part of the Trail of Tears of 1838.


Creek, which came from the shortening of “Ocheese Creek” Indians, were originally named Muskogee. They lived in villages in river valleys throughout what are today the states of Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. After the War of 1812, some Creek leaders signed numbers of treaties that ceded more lands to Georgia. The Creek established a law that made land cessions a capital offense. However, on February 12, 1825, William McIntosh and other chiefs signed the Treaty of Indian Springs, which gave up most of the remaining Creek lands in Georgia. Some believed he was bribed to sell out his people; others thought that he realized that the Creeks were going to lose their lands eventually, and he got the best possible deal for them. After the ratification of the treaty by the U.S. Senate, Creeks led by Menawa assassinated McIntosh. The Creeks had been forced from Georgia, however, there were still about 20,000 Upper Creeks living in Alabama. A treaty was signed in 1832 that opened a large portion of their land to white settlement, but guaranteed the Creeks protected ownership of the remaining portion of the land that was divided among the leading families. The government did not protect them from speculators, who cheated them out of their lands. Violence broke out, leading to the “Creek War of 1836.” The war was ended by forcibly removing the Creeks to the Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River.


The Chickasaws are originally from present-day Mississippi, now mostly living in Oklahoma. They are related to the Choctaws, who speak a similar language, forming the Western Group of the Muskogean languages. After the Indian Removal Act in 1830, the Chickasaw ceded their land east of the Mississippi in 1832 and agreed to remove to the Indian Territory. They signed a treaty, which stated that the federal government would provide them until they moved. However, it backed down on its promise. They were forced to pay the Choctaws for the right to live on part of their western allotment. They migrated in the winter of 1837-1838.


The Choctaws were organically from the southeast United States, such as Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana of the Muskogean linguistic group, like the Chickasaws. They were the first to sign a removal treaty, in 1830. Some chose to stay in Mississippi under the terms of the Removal Act. However, land-hungry whites squatted on Choctaw territory and cheated them out of their holdings. Soon, most of the remaining Choctaws, fed up of mistreatment, sold their land and moved west. They were organized as the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. In 1831, tens of thousands of Choctaw walked 800km to Oklahoma and many died.


The Seminoles are originally from Florida. A small group of Seminoles was forced into signing a removal treaty in 1833, but the majority of the tribe declared the treaty to be illegitimate and refused to leave. The result was the Seminole War, lasting from 1835 to 1842. Thousands of lives were lost in the war, which cost the Jackson administration 40 to 60 millions of dollars, ten times the amount it had allotted for Indian removal. In the end, most of the Seminoles moved to the new territory in Oklahoma. For those who remained, they defended themselves in the Third Seminole War in 1855-1858, when the U.S. military tried to drive them out. At last, the United States paid the remaining Seminoles to move west.


The Cherokees originated from Southeastern United States. They were tricked with an illegitimate treaty. A small fraction agreed to sign a removal agreement, the Treaty of New Echota. The leaders of the group were not the recognized leaders of the Cherokee nation, and over 15,000 Cherokees signed a petition in protest. Their demands were ignored by the Supreme Court and ratified the treaty in 1836. The Cherokee were given two years to migrate voluntarily. By 1838, only 2,000 had migrated and 16,000 remained on their land. The U.S. government sent 7,000 troops, who forced the Cherokees into stockades. They were not allowed time to gather belongings, and as they left, whites looted their homes. This began the Cherokees’ march known as the Trail of Tears, in which 4,000 Cherokees died of cold, hunger, and disease on their way to the western lands.


www.ngeorgia.com/history/creek.html


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html


http://www.tolatsga.org/Cherokee1.html


http://www.dickshovel.com/Cherokee1.html


www.wikipedia.org



mre

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End of Wednesday's class

Makeda

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Weren't the whigs smart to turn what the democrats said about Harrison against them in order to win the election, Leslie!



Steven

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Chapter 13#6


 


     William henry Harrison, the newly appointed canadite of  the whig party quickly gained public popularity in his new technique of campaigning. He allowed the Democrats, under canidate William Henry Harrison, to attack them first and use their own political attacks against them. The Democrats with their impulsive attempt to strike down Harrison ended up hurting themselves over the Whigs as Harrison quickly twist there attacks in a way that benefitted himself. When the Demorats reffered to Harrison as an old, poor farmer that classified him under a “log cabin and hard cider”candidate. He was able to quickly turn it around and preach that he was the candidate more suitable because he was a Hard working farmer from the rugged west that knew more of the people then Van Buren could ever be.


 


            By adopting the new Idea of harrison being a People’s person combined with the ideas of a slogan “Tippecanoe and Tyler too”, Harrison was able to take the election of 1840 out of the grasp of the democrats. The rich, snobby Van buren would sadly never see the position of office again but it was the fault of his self that made sure of this.


 


Cites


www.wikipedia.com


The American Pageant 13th edition   



Butchie

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Provide more material on the “five civilized tribes,” particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


 


http://www.shadowwolf.org/five_civilized_tribes.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes


http://www.nativeamericans.com/FiveCivilizedTribes.htm


 


            The Five Civilized Tribes were the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole.  They were called civilized because they had adopted some American customs like the maintaining of plantations and slaves.  The most popular of these five tribes was the Cherokees.  They were probably the most assimilated tribe out of the five.  They actually began to adopt the lifestyles and jobs as some of the Americans in that area.  They were eventually kicked out of their land because the southern farmers felt like they needed more land to farm and grow crops especially cotton.


            The tribes were forced to move west to a land called the Indian Territory, which is now the eastern part of Oklahoma.  The most famous Indian removal was the Trail of Tears which was when President Buren gave out the Treaty of New Echota where he mad the Cherokee nation especially to exchange their property for land out west.  The Trail of Tears resulted in the death of 4000 Cherokees.  They traveled 1200 miles from the Southeast of America to Oklahoma mostly on foot.  During the emigration the Cherokees would sing the song “Amazing Grace” which would give them inspiration to improve morale.  It was translated into Cherokee by Samuel Worcester.


            Once they were in the territory, the United States government said that their land would be free of white settlers forever.  Andrew Jackson said that the land would be the Indians “as long as the grass grows and the water runs.”  This policy was violated almost immediately even before the tribes got there.  In 1893, the same year as the Trail of Tears, the government opened up the “Cherokee Strip” to outside the Oklahoma Land Run.  In 1907, they made Oklahoma a state and even to this date all five tribes have a strong presence in this state.

            During the Civil War, the Five Tribes were divided on which side to support.  The Choctaw and Chickasaw fought mostly on the Confederate side.  While the Creek, Seminole and Cherokee were split between both sides.  The Cherokees were so mad that their nation was being split up over this war that they eventually fought their own civil war between the two sides. 

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Wow, that was a very good job for a last minute post!  Your information of the Tariff of 1828 definitely cleared up some of my confusion as to why Jacksonians suggested the tariff in the first place.  You also did a great job explaining why South Carolina called for nullification, like how their imports had high tariffs, yet their exports didn’t have tariffs.  Excellant job! 

Tom

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6.        Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.


 

When a candidate running for president portrays himself as a “common man” or a “man of the people”  he is considered to be a running a “log cabin campaign”.  William Henry Harrison of the Whig party ran on this idea in the election of 1840.  Harrison’s opponent in the election of 1840 was Martin Van Buren who was running as a democrat.  Harrison’s party tried to make Van Buren look like a rich arrogant man who did not associate with the common folk.  In reality, Van Buren was very poor and very hardworking while Harrison was from a well off family.  Harrison’s main idea in his campaign was to turn the people against Van Buren.  He made rumors and even gave Van Buren the name “Martin Van Ruin” to trick voters into thinking that he wasn’t a good man.  Harrison’s running mate for vice president was John Tyler from the South.  Together they avoided speaking out on major issues such as the bank and slavery.  The Whig’s blamed the depression on Van Buren’s adminstration and clamied that they were the good old farm boys that would clean up the curruption left in the offive and turn the country around.  It seems like this is a story of the nice guy finishing last.

Kathryn

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It's true!  The Native Americans were pushed west primarily for the convinience of white settlers.  Many historians may argue that the Americans were greedy and cared for their own general interests.  However, lets look at this from another point of view.  At the time, Americans were rapidly moving west.  Native American attacks were extremely frequent during frontier life.  Although the Indains had relatively good reasons for proposing war on the white settlers, inncoent people died.  When the rest of the US heard of these Indian attacks on innocent men, women and children... how were they supposed to react?  Andrew Jackson was pro-western expantion.  He was one of the first presidents to come from the west.  He knew about frontier life and therefore resented the Indians.  When Jackson became president, he issued the Indian Removal act, which unfortunately affected the most civilized Native American tribes.  These tribes were relatively peaceful, but when they caught news of the removal act, many fought back.  Most of the tribes were forced to sign treaties and were forced west along the Trail of Tears.



Krystal F.

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Makeda- Good job on getting information.  I had the same question with some of the same info.  You also had other facts that I didn't even think of. 



Brandi

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kp wrote:



            Along with the Cherokees their were five other tribes that had traveled the “Trail of Tears.”  The Chickasaws and the Choctaws unlike the Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole did not resist being removed from their land. They saw the removal as being inevitable and were both first to sign a removal treaty in which the whites took back their word for a fair piece of western land. On the other hand, the Seminoles refused to leave their land. Because of this, they had to engage in the Second Seminole War and the Third Seminole War, losing many lives along the way.





Kirsten,



It's really good! You have good info and you included a little something about all the tribes. But why do you think the Chikasaws and the Choctaws were less resistent when it came to being forced off their land? Why was it more important to the Cherokees, Creeks, and Seminoles to actually fight for their land, when in the end they might have more of their people die due to fighting? The Chikasaws and the Choctaws fought on the Confederate side while the tribes were in the middle. Do you think that has anything to do with their perspective on fighting or not for their land? Just a random question. But your info is really good.



MeLaNiE<33

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10.     Provide more material on the “five civilized tribes,” particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


 


     “The Trail Where They Cried,
        nu na hi du na tlo hi lu I


The “five civilized tribes” were the Cherokees, Creek, Choctaws, Chickasaws and Seminoles. During the 1800’s, the American government and their people forced the Native Americans to move away from the southern states and into the “Indian Territory”, now known as Oklahoma. Oklahoma conveniently means “red people”. It was promised by treaty, to be the Indians’ promised land and to be theirs "for as long as grass grows and water flows." That in turn meant until the greedy Americans wanted more land. Around the 1820’s, these civilized tribes formed republican-style governments including courts, laws, and even a constitution. A great example of a Native American tribe that were almost quit possibly American were the Cherokees. They dressed, talked, prayed, and did everything possible like the Americans to fit in. For a while it worked. Then man got land hungry. They wanted to seek gold. All treaties made to protect them were void. The government continued to push them away. There was nothing more the Cherokees could have done to be more American. The only thing they couldn't do was be American. The Indian Removal Act was passed by the Twenty-First Congress of the United States. President Andrew Jackson signed the bill after many months of debate. They first started to remove the Cherokees from Georgia. They ripped them out of their land and even after many courts cases between the Cherokees and Georgia, they stilled had to continue to move west. All laws that were meant to protect them no longer existed. The other civilized tribes had similar problems like the Seminoles and Florida. Over the course of 10 years more then 70,000 Native Americans died in the moving to Oklahoma. This was called the “Trail of Tears.” Many died due to famine and disease. This awful event will be remebered in history for decades to come.The pain and suffering these Native Americans had to face will never go away.


 


 


"We, the great mass of the people think only of the love we have to our land for...we do love the land where we were brought up. We will never let our hold to this land go...to let it go it will be like throwing away...[our] mother that gave...[us] birth."
(Letter from Aitooweyah, to John Ross, principal chief of the Cherokees.)



 


 


http://www.thepeoplespaths.net/articles/princes.html


http://www.powersource.com/cocinc/history/trail.htm


 


http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/history/hs_es_indians_slavery.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes 

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Question 5:


Explain both the Indian removal and the Texas rebellion as products of the expansionism and “land hunger” of the time. The emphasis might be on how, in both cases, the U.S. government essentially reacted to local political developments.


 


 


          The thirst for land is a fight that never ends. In the early years of the 1800’s we were still pushing Indians out, and fighting for independence. America wanted to expand and wanted as much land as they could accumulate. Indian removal from lands west of the Appalachians/Mississippi River came as a result of the Manifest Destiny movement that all but assured Americans of their divine right to all lands they could claim and hold. America was all unscripted and untamed, with many people fighting for a piece of it, and the government wanted to chart it out.


The Indians were a fight threw the whole expansion process, due to the fact that they wanted to keep the land that their fathers gave them and where their previous relatives died on. The American people however didn’t want it that way; they wanted the Indians off the land and out. They fought the Indians for years over their land, and how they would give them land in the west. The first to get pushed out of “their” land by the Indian Removal Act was the Cherokee from present day Georgia. Other “civilized” tribes faced the same problem. These tribes fought against the federal army to keep their land but had no true win. Andrew Jackson decided to combine five tribes together to form the Five Civilized Tribes. They were forced to move to parts of Oklahoma where there was land set up for them. The trail set up across the Mississippi River was known as the Trail of Tears, and within the first 10 years of the Indian Removal Act more than 70,000 Indians walked the trail and most of the died. Most of the Indians died from diseases, with the occasional death due to harsh living conditions. Oklahoma was given to the Indians with all rights to them, except the Panhandle. The government promised them the land regardless of everything. They had given them almost 20 million acres and almost 10 million dollars that had been divided up amongst the tribes.


          America didn’t only push Indians out of their native land they also did so towards Mexican citizens and local inhabitants. Mexico wanted American citizens to come into their land and settle with the compliance of a few rules. They wanted everyone who was going in to settle had to become a Mexican citizen and follow all of their laws set by their government. They also enforced Americans to convert to being Catholic, unless they were prior to the movement. The last request in which they had to follow was that the Americans could not bring slaves into the state, purchase or sell them either. The new Mexican citizens [Americans] didn’t follow these rules or comply with them. Santa Anna who was the leader of Mexico conscripted an army to put down the rebellion of Tejas “Texas” and by doing so it began a series of battles. The prisoners were executed and only women, her infant child, or a slave could escape this fate, by doing so they were told to take the word of the Mexican victory to other rebels. In April of 1836 Santa Anna himself was captured, he was forced to sign a treaty declaring Texas independence. With this treaty a border was created at the Rio Grande, and Texas was now independent.


          The Indian Removal and the Texas Rebellion are just two examples of how the “land hungry” American citizens expanded. In both cases Americans used the same type of serried actions to gain their land. Americans would first go into the area with an agreement to share the land, then slowly fight against them and force the “natives” of the land out. Unfortunately that’s how Americans gained the land that we call the United States of America.


 


 


Websites used:


http://www.studyworld.com/indian_removal_act_of_1830.htm


http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/16341.htm


http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/westwardexpansion/terms/event_2.html


http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h306.html


 



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The Five Civilized Tribes are: Creek, Cherokee, Seminole, Chickasaw and Choctaw.



The Creek: http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/northamerica/creek_indians.html



The Creek’s original name is MuskogeeWhen the British arrived in the Americas, they preferred not to pronounce their tribal name, which was particularly difficult to pronounce.   Thus, this group of Native Americans grew to adopt the name “Creek” which comes from their geographical location in Northern Georgia.  The Creek were a highly civilized tribe and had its own form of government that consisted of a Chief, Assistant Chief, and a Chief Speaker.  The Creek was actually more than one tribe.  The population was about 400 to 600 people, but often fluctuated due to the withdrawal or acceptance of other tribes into this ‘little nation’.  The Creek was the smallest of the Civilized Tribes.  It is believed that the reason for these tribal alliances was to protect against enemy tribes.  Unfortunately these partnerships were not strong enough to stand up against the Indian Removal Act.  The Creek fought many battles against the federal army.  The battle of Lumpkin was a harsh defeat for the Creek Indians.  The Federal Army was too strong for one group of people to fight.  The Creek, along with the other civilized tribes, were pushed west to Oklahoma nonetheless.  They faced harsh conditions and perished in great numbers along the way. 



 



The Seminole: http://www.keyshistory.org/seminolespage1.html



The Seminole tribe, like most American tribes, can be traced 12,000 years back.  They survived by hunting and fishing, but later quit hunting due to American tourists.  They eventually became part of American economy and worked as farmers.  The Seminole were one of the 5 civilized tribes and lived in Florida until 1821 when Florida was still controlled by Spain.  They were originally affiliated with the Creek Confederation, but later joined with another group of Native Americans and officially became the Seminole.  Florida consisted of rich and fertile lands and American settlers were moving their farms more closely to the Seminole civilizations.  The white settlers wished to remove the Indians in order to obtain more land.  Not to mention, many black slaves would escape from their plantations and seek shelter from the Seminole.  Angry slave owners and other Americans fought against the Seminoles, such as Andrew Jackson.  Their battles consisted of 3 Seminole Wars.  As a result of the wars, Spain handed over its Florida territory to the US.  Also, a majority of the tribes lost hope and no longer wished to fight.  As a result, they were immediately moved to Oklahoma along the Trail of Tears.  3000 Seminoles were forced westward to Oklahoma and Arkansas.



 



 Chickasaw: http://www.utm.edu/departments/acadpro/library/departments/special_col lections/wc_hist/chksaw.htm



 The Chickasaw were known as great warriors and lived near the Tombigbee River in Mississippi.  In 1600, they only had a population of about 5000, thus were considered a very small group compared to the Cherokee and Choctaw.  They claimed hunting land in Tennessee and Kentucky.  In peacetime, they did not live in towns but in scattered tribes.  When war was an issue, the Chickasaw would come together as one, large, civilized tribe.  They were in incredible shape, and when they fought in battle and were taken as captives, they worked on plantations with the slaves.  By the 1700s, they were living on confused territory between America and Spain.  Both countries wanted the territory.  When the Indian Removal act was issued, many fought back.  However, a great number of Chickasaw also signed treaties giving land to the Americans as well.  Many continued to live on American soil as mill workers or farmers.  Others were sent to Oklahoma where they later got land rights.



 



Choctaw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw



The Choctaw were scattered and very divided during the Revolutionary War, in which they sided with the British, Spanish, and the newly forming United States.  This division made the Choctaw alliance weaker than other tribes; however, they later came back together after the revolution and became allies to the United States. They refused to aid other countries other than the US.  They were great traders with Americans, therefore, affected the economy.  However, their supposed alliance with the US was not affective, when Andrew Jackson issued the Indian removal act.  Like the other civilized tribes, they attempted to fight back.  However, most of them signed treaties such as: Treaty of Hopewell, Treaty of Fort Adams, and the Treaty of Fort Confederation.  The most important treaty was Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek, in which it signed away the rest of the Choctaw land.  Men, women and children were basically herded west.



 



The Cherokee: http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html



The Cherokee are perhaps the most famous or well known group of the 5 Civilized Tribes.  They were located in and around North and South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and northern Alabama.  They were perhaps the largest tribe in the US at the time, however, before the United States was formed, the Europeans met with the Cherokee and unfortunately killed off 75% of their population with diseases.  Despite this decrease in population the Cherokee ranged in about 50,000 peoples.  They lived in about 200 villages, each consisting of 70 homes and a meeting house in the middle of the village.   They were primarily an agricultural group of people.  The Cherokee were essential traders with the British and other European countries before the US revolted from England. When the colonists won the revolutionary war, American settlers began moving west in great numbers.  The Cherokee was such a large population and lived off of much of the land wanted by white settlers.  When Andrew Jackson passed the Removal Acts, at first the government did not force the Cherokee to move because they were not a sovereign nation.  In the issue of Worcester vs. Georgia, the Chief Justice John Marshall ruled in favor of the Cherokee nation.  The Cherokee could only agree to the Removal Act with a signature.



However, when the Cherokee began to scatter and slowly divided. Major Ridge and John, and Elias Boudinot were all sons of Chief John Ross.  They advocated removal after signing the Treaty of New Echota.  After that, men, women, and children were taken from their land and forced to walk the long distance to the edge of the Mississippi, where they would cross the river by ship, and then march on into Oklahoma.  4000 Cherokee died along the way, one of the greatest losses on the Trail of Tears.  Death was primarily caused by disease, hunger, dehydration, and exhaustion.  It is a sad moment to look back at in history.




Alex Z.

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Chapter 13 Computer Lab Assignment


Question 8


The political machines and spoils system during the Jacksonian Era stemmed from the “corrupt bargain” in the Presidential Election of 1824, where Jackson lost to John Quincy Adams despite winning the most popular and electoral votes. Andrew Jackson was a fiery Democrat who believed firmly in an empowered common people. As a result, when he ran again in 1828 and won, he wanted to establish a system to counter his elitist enemies from the Northeast. The result - the spoils system - provided an inward flow of supporters of Jackson into public offices. Although this political machine supported the President’s belief that any citizen could hold one such position, it was not without flaws by any means. Granted, it was advantageous to get new people involved in the government. However, certain political positions and duties involve special skills not all citizens have, and having so many as part of the same party opened the doors to corruption. It should also be noted that those booted out of office rarely took it well, and sometimes committed suicide over the matter.


Another, somewhat separate result of Jackson’s political machine was the formation of a third political party, the Anti-Masonic Party. Due to the supposed corruption caused by the spoils system and the mysterious disappearance of one William Morgan - a Freemason who threatened to reveal the societies secrets - many fearful people gathered to form the party in an attempt to “defeat the conspiracy.”


 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Jackson


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party



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Wow Samantha that was really good. You provided a lot of information on each of the five civilized tribes and you provided really good info. about what happened after they arrived in Oklahoma. However you didn't put a lot about what happened during the Trail of Tears itself. Still really good.

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Tanya S. wrote:


10.  Provide more material on the "five civilized tribes," particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the "Trail of Tears."  
The "five civilized tribes" were the Cherokees, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.   The Cherokees:
Upon European settlement in Cherokee land, the Natives adopted well the the foreigners customs. The Cherokee even took to agricultural economy. Over 90 percent of the Cherokees land was ceded to other settlers between 1721 and 1819. The Cherokee also established a formal governing system with a written constitution by 1820. In 1830, gold was found on Cherokee land. This increased the want for Indian land.  The Cherokees took their case of removal to the Supreme Court.  In 1832, the court finally agreed with the Cherokees on the matter.  Chief Justice John Marshall ruled that "the Cherokee Nation was sovereign, making the removal laws invalid." The United States began to remove the Indians to Oklahoma in 1838.   The Chickasaw:
The Chickasaw were originally from Mississippi and most currently live in Oklahoma.  The Chickasaw are related to the Choctaw.  The two groups of the Chickasaw are the "Impsaktea" and the "Intcutwalipa."  
The Choctaw:
The Choctaw were originally from Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana.  They mixed European culture and technology with their own, which is why they were considered one of the "Five Civilized Tribes."   The Creek:
The Creek’s original name was Muscogee.  They lived in self-governing villages located throughout the states of Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama.  Several languages were spoken among them.   The Seminole:
The Seminole were originally from Florida.  Some still live there, while others live in Oklahoma.  About 3, 000 Seminoles were forced west of the Mississippi River.  However 300-500 remained and fought in the Everglades of Florida.  African Americans who had escaped slavery in South Carolina and Georgia joined the Seminole ways.   When the American Civil War broke out, these tribes divided over who to support.  The Choctaw and the Chickasaw supported the Confederates, and the Creek, Seminole, and Cherokee were divided between supporting the Union and the Confederacy.  The United States government promised Native Americans that their new land in the Indian Territory would be free of white settlers.  This promise, however, was violated just like many made before it.  Many Native Americans perished on the "Trail of Tears." Causes of their death included disease, hunger, poor weather conditions, and road conditions.  
http://www.rosecity.net/tears/trail/tearsnht.html   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes   http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html



Tanya very good job on describing the five trubes and I also believe you did a good job on describing how the nations were affected after the removal and their lives after.

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6.      Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.


 


William Henry Harrison was the first Whig to campaign for office.  He and vice president nominee John Tyler had a slogan- “Tippecanoe and Tyler too.” This referred to Harrison’s victory over Shawnee Indians at an Ohio river.  Some Democrats made fun of Harrison because he was old to be president.  In one of the Democratic newspapers it said to just give him a barrel of hard cider and he’ll live the rest of his life in a log cabin. 


The Whigs then called Harrison the “log cabin and hard cider candidate.”  They also said that his Democratic opponent Martin Van Buren was a rich snob, when in reality, he came from a poor family.  Harrison was really the rich one.


In the end, the Whigs proved to be well-accomplished campaigners, because Harrison won the election.  He and the Whigs turned the Democrats’ words around to defeat them tremendously.   


                                                                                   _Krystal 


 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign 



Brandi

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woops.. almost forgot


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes


 



L. Gonzalez

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Great Job Curt! You used a lot of information and brought it out in a way that definitely taught me alot about those tribes, a lot that i didn't know! Great post!



mre

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Thanks Kelsey!  That was a really comprehensive answer.

sarah

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3.        Develop the theme of rising sectionalism in the late 1820s and 1830s. Show how the assertion of states’ rights and nullification in the tariff controversies reflected growing southern fears of northern political and economic power.


 


The election of 1824 was a politically sectional campaign. Andrew Jackson was the winning candidate in the west and south, where his policies and his “common man” persona were understood and admired. John Quincy Adams was the choice in the North, where his elitist policies were most beneficial. When Adams won, Jacksonians were outraged, and caused a commotion for 4 years until the Election of 1828 when Jackson won a huge victory over Adams who was running for a second term.


 


While Adams was still in office, the Jacksonian leaders in Congress had created the Tariff of 1828, hoping to make it such an outrageous plan that every section of Congress would vote it down, and this would give Adams another black mark on his record. Unfortunately, the bill passed and when Jackson took office, the “Tariff of Abominations” was one of the biggest problems for his administration. The Jackson Administration had also turned opinion on Adams against him, creating a bad reputation for the ex-president. In turn, the Adams party took low blows at Jackson and his family. This was a new method of political mudslinging that had never been seen in American politics before.


 


While all this was going on, the South was suffering under the Tariff of Abominations. The South sold all their products without tariffs, yet all their imports had high tariffs. Also, the South felt that they were the only area that was not being allowed to expand. The prices of cotton were falling, and land was growing more and more crowded. When John C. Calhoun wrote “The South Carolina Exposition”, he called for the nullification of the Tariff by every state. South Carolina was alone in this struggle, considering it was believed that Jackson would sympathize with the South and veto the tariff. The problem continued in 1832 when Congress created the Tariff of 1832, which helped to get rid of most of the worst components of the Tariff of 1824. South Carolina’s legislature declared the 1832 tariff to be void within S.C borders. They also threatened to secede from the Union if the Tariff of 1824 was not nullified.


 


In a last attempt to preserve the Union, Jackson sent the army and navy into South Carolina to force the South Carolinians down .This was his vicious national policy coming through, trying to go up against the growing feelings of sectionalism that were spreading through the country.


 


hah last minute post!



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Brandi R.


 


10) Provide more material on the “Five Civilized Tribes”, particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears”.


 


During the Trail of Tears in 1838 Indian nations were forced to move out of their ancestors’ land to the western states of America.  This forced movement was devastating, resulting in about 4,000 deaths of the Cherokees.  There were other Indian tribes that were forced to move as well as the Cherokees.  These groups were called the “Five Civilized Tribes”.  These Indian nations were the Cherokee, the Chikasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and the Seminole.  The Chikasaws were related to the Choctaws and spoke a similar language. The Treal of Tears affected these nations greatly, each of them having adopted ways of the colonists. They even adopted different things such as slavery and plantations. The “Five Civilized Tribes” lived in the southeastern part of the United States before they were forced to move west.


 


The fate of the Cherokees was in the hands of the Americans. The finding of gold in the land of the Cherokees gave a push to the Indian Removal Act. They were taken advantage of during the Treaty of New Echota. It was an agreement under the Indian Removal Act that exchanged land of the Native Americans for land west of the Mississippi. This treaty was never agreed upon by the Cherokees but was enforced by Martin Van Buren.  The Cherokees were affected greatly because troops were sent to round up them up, about 17,000 of them, and they were sent to camps before they were forced to the west. The fate of the Indians were deady in this camp, many dying from diseases. But after the actual roundup of the Indians the Cherokees took over the supervivsion of a lot of the emigration. The US military wasn’t involved much in the jorney itself.


 


          After their removal the “Five Civilized Tribes” were faced with the decision of who they would support during the Civil War.The Choctaw and Chikasaw fought mostly of the Confederate side. The Creeks, Seminoles, and the Cherokees on the other hand were in the middle between the Union and the Confederacy. The Cherokees fought the war within their own nation and fought between those who supported the opposing sides.


 

            The Indians in the end were promised that the Indian Territory they were moved to would be free of whites. But the government opened up the land to settlers by the Oklahoma Land Run. All of the “Five Civilized Tribes” still live in the Oklahoma area today.  

Jarred Rose

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10. Provide more material on the “five civilized tribes”, particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


 


            The Trail of Tears refers to the great movement of Native American people, most particularly the Cherokees, from their southern lands to the Indian Reservation in the west, which is modern day Oklahoma. It resulted from the enforcement of the Treaty of New Echota by the federal government on the Cherokee people.


            The Treaty of New Echota was signed by representatives of the federal government and a few Cherokee people but never by any offical representatives of the Cherokee and therefore they refused to acknowledge it. However the federal government eventually didn’t give them any chose and forced them out.


            Thousands of Cherokees were forced to march many hundreds of miles to the Indian territory. All of their possesions were left behind and on the way they had minimal facilites and food. Even those who went by boat had equally horrible conditions, although it was a faster means of transportation.


            The first group to leave lost huge amounts of people due to the indifference of the army commanders and how hard they pushed them. It was only when Pricipal Chief John Ross begged General Winfield Scott to let him lead his people west that most of the dying stoped. Ross organized the Native Americans into small groups and then had leaders for each lead them through the woods so that they could forage for food. All together about 4,000 Cherokee people had died along the Trail of Tears or as they call it The Trail Where We Cried.


            Many more died when they got to the Indian Territory from disease and food shortages. Shortly after they reorganized their government under John Ross and killed the three men who had signed the Treaty of New Echota.


            After the American Civil War they were destoned to lose even more land to the government. From that point on the Cherokees have mostly remained in the Indian Territory although many people can claim the Cherokees as ancestors.



kp

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Kirsten Pereira                                                                                                      Chapter 13


11/14/06


 


10.) Provide more material on the “five civilized tribe,” particularly Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


 


During Jackson’s westward expansion Native Americans were forced out of their territory and moved to the frontier along the “Trail of Tears.” During the Indian Removal Act the Cherokee along with the Chickasaw, Creek, Choctaw, and Seminole were forced to march more than a thousand miles along the “Trail of Tears” losing many of their own on the way. The Cherokee, the largest of the Five Civilized Tribes established a Cherokee Nation and fought the removal act in the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, in 1838 the United States Army invaded the Cherokee Nation.


            During the 19th century Cherokee culture flourished taking ideals and traditions from white culture such as their way of dressing, farming, government, and construction methods. As their culture flourished they adopted a republican form of government and discovered gold. This discovery of gold resulted in the pressure by whites to obtain this land and move the Cherokee out of it. After traveling on the “Trail of Tears” the Cherokee settled in Oklahoma and continued to flourish despite their many loses due to the Indian Removal Act. They became the most important of the Five Civilized Tribes and started a new public school system, along with creating treaties that freed their black slaves and ending tribal sovereignty.


            Along with the Cherokees their were five other tribes that had traveled the “Trail of Tears.”  The Chickasaws and the Choctaws unlike the Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole did not resist being removed from their land. They saw the removal as being inevitable and were both first to sign a removal treaty in which the whites took back their word for a fair piece of western land. On the other hand, the Seminoles refused to leave their land. Because of this, they had to engage in the Second Seminole War and the Third Seminole War, losing many lives along the way. After the Third Seminole War the United States had to pay the Seminoles to move west. The Creeks also refused to leave. They tried to gain ownership of a portion of their sacred land, but were eventually cheated out of it. They became so angry that they began to murder, and were forced to leave out of military necessity. Unfortunately, the Indian Removal Act and the “Trail of Tears” affected almost all of the tribes beside the Cherokee in negative ways; their spirits were destroyed along with the hope for future prosperity for their tribes.


 


 


 


 


http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0818825.html


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html



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Melissa Gomes                                                                   November 14, 2006


AP US History                                                                     Chapter 13


Computer Lab Assignment


 


9. Focus on Jackson’s personality, particularly his fierce animosities against his enemies, and the secrets of his appeal as a symbol of democracy and the common person.


 


Thomas Jefferson once said, "His passions are terrible, he is a dangerous man" the man he is speaking of is none other than Andrew Jackson. Nicknamed "Old Hickory" because he was renowned for his toughness, Jackson was the a rough military hero and he was regarded by many as the symbol and spokesman of the common person. Jackson entered the White House in 1829 after winning the second of two vigorously fought election campaigns. Through his forceful personality, he restructured the office of the president and helped shape the Democratic Party as the prototype of the modern political organization. Like many other Presidents who have won important power struggles, he was a fighter. He was in fact the most violent-tempered man ever to rise to the presidency.


In office, Jackson greatly enhanced the power and prestige of the presidency. While each member of Congress represented a specific regional constituency, only Jackson represented all the people of the United States. Jackson convinced many Americans that their votes mattered. He espoused a political ideology of “democratic republicanism” that stressed the common peoples’ virtue, intelligence, and capacity for self-government. He also expressed a deep disdain for the “better classes,” which claimed a “more enlightened wisdom” than common men and women.


Jackson's career exemplified, and in many ways molded, the contradictory forces at work in the democratization of the early Republic. In his appeals to the common man, his attacks on privileged wealth, and his help in building a new sort of mass political party, he advanced the causes of equal rights and majoritarian democracy. Yet those advances went hand in hand with the continued subjugation of Native Americans and a determination not to disturb the slavery issue. Jackson stood for a more egalitarian America, but his vision of democracy stopped squarely at the color line.




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(sources for questions #7 post)


 


http://www.presidentelect.org/e1824.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxii.html

Alex Jardin

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Chapter 13


 


7.        Contrast the earlier elitist method of selecting presidents (reflected in the four-way election of 1824) with the new, more democratic political methods, including national conventions and noisy popular campaigns.


 


 


 


If you compare the election of 1824 to the election of 2000 you will see several differences. The election of 1824 had four running candidates where the election of 2000 had three running candidates in the general election. The election of 1824 had candidates of all the same party (Democratic-Republican) and as opposed to 2000 where the candidates were of the Democratic, Republican, and the Green party.


                In the election process of both times were about the same. The 12th Amendment states that the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. The difference between the two were that in the election of 1824 no candidate running received a majority of the electoral votes. Andrew Jackson though had won the popular vote and gained the most votes by the electoral college. The House of Representatives had proceeded to choose a president, John Quincy Adams. In the election of 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote but George Bush had won the majority of the Electoral vote declaring him the president.


                Campaigns today are a lot about how much money the candidate running is backed up by. In order to assure success the candidates invest millions upon millions into their campaigns. Commercials are a popular way of campaigning which obviously weren’t around in the 1800’s and cost a great deal of money.


Candidates often tour the country on planes and busses to meet towns in many states to assure their support by the people, which we can see by the election of 2000, isn’t always important when it comes down to a couple hundred thousand votes.



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In response to Mr. E's post on my assignment:



" I have two questions: what do you think voters really want in a candidate today and do you think it will ever be possible to have elections simply based on issues and not on image, presentation, personal style, etc.?"



I think voters really want patriotism in a candidate, or for a candidate to be proud of their country and take pride in it, therefore, wanting to strive to benefit and improve it constantly and to no extent.   Also, voters want efficiency in morally and reasonably making wise, intelligent decisions and charisma to deliver messages and propose or promote new ideas and/or beliefs, in a candidate.  Now, obviously this could apply to any circumstance regarding any issue, no specifics, however, regardless of what the issue is, those charactersitcs in a leader are essential, similar to the characteristics of a good worker, a good boss, but on another level.  Authority, activism (with no fear of standing out and representing "a people"), leadership, effort, determination to formulate a plan and the follow up to carry it out, and importantly representation.  To represent something accurately, you have to completely fall in love with its strengths, admire its beauty, understand its diversity, acknowledge its weaknessses, realize its complexity, and determine its goals.  A good candidiate WILL represent Americans and the United States, and the best way to acess any situation, as President, for example, is KNOWING and understanding your topic, or country.  I do not think it will ever be possible to have elections simply based on issues and not on image, presentation, or personal style.  Relating to what i earlier stated about what voters want in a cadidate, you'll notice that image, personal style, and presentation ARE how you deal with struggles, address issues, approach situations, and deliver ideas.



                                                                                        -kels



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10.  Provide more material on the "five civilized tribes," particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the "Trail of Tears."
 

The "five civilized tribes" were the Cherokees, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.
 
The Cherokees:
Upon European settlement in Cherokee land, the Natives adopted well the the foreigners customs. The Cherokee even took to agricultural economy. Over 90 percent of the Cherokees land was ceded to other settlers between 1721 and 1819. The Cherokee also established a formal governing system with a written constitution by 1820. In 1830, gold was found on Cherokee land. This increased the want for Indian land.  The Cherokees took their case of removal to the Supreme Court.  In 1832, the court finally agreed with the Cherokees on the matter.  Chief Justice John Marshall ruled that "the Cherokee Nation was sovereign, making the removal laws invalid." The United States began to remove the Indians to Oklahoma in 1838.
 
The Chickasaw:
The Chickasaw were originally from Mississippi and most currently live in Oklahoma.  The Chickasaw are related to the Choctaw.  The two groups of the Chickasaw are the "Impsaktea" and the "Intcutwalipa."
 

The Choctaw:
The Choctaw were originally from Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana.  They mixed European culture and technology with their own, which is why they were considered one of the "Five Civilized Tribes."
 
The Creek:
The Creek’s original name was Muscogee.  They lived in self-governing villages located throughout the states of Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama.  Several languages were spoken among them.
 
The Seminole:
The Seminole were originally from Florida.  Some still live there, while others live in Oklahoma.  About 3, 000 Seminoles were forced west of the Mississippi River.  However 300-500 remained and fought in the Everglades of Florida.  African Americans who had escaped slavery in South Carolina and Georgia joined the Seminole ways.
 
When the American Civil War broke out, these tribes divided over who to support.  The Choctaw and the Chickasaw supported the Confederates, and the Creek, Seminole, and Cherokee were divided between supporting the Union and the Confederacy.  The United States government promised Native Americans that their new land in the Indian Territory would be free of white settlers.  This promise, however, was violated just like many made before it.  Many Native Americans perished on the "Trail of Tears." Causes of their death included disease, hunger, poor weather conditions, and road conditions.
 

http://www.rosecity.net/tears/trail/tearsnht.html
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes
 
http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html

s.bailey

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curt,


you did a great  job. you included information i didn't know or didn't include as far native american life on indian territory after the removal.



Julia

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Makeda, your post was very good. It was straight to the point and contained a lot of facts that I had and my page was longer. I would much rather read something like yours good job!

Julia

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My information came from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign

Makeda

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The election of 1840 was between Martin Van Buren and William Henry Harrison. Van Buren being the Democrats choice and Harrison the Whigs. Both parties tried to blacken each other’s candidates name in many different ways. The Whigs, for example, renamed Martin Van Buren “Martin Van Ruin.” One Democratic reporter called Harrison “ a poor farmer who should be content with a pension, a log cabin and a barrel of hard cider” as a way to insult the western candidate. The Whigs turned this around and portrayed Harrison as a hardworking farmer who was for the poor man. They said he was there to cleanse the white house of Jackson’s corrupt spoils men. The Whigs served cider at rallies to get people to like Harrison more. They also decided not to write an official platform, as a way to gain more votes. Some supporters of the Whig party, to discredit Van Buren, wrote poems about his aristocratic lifestyle and drew pictures of him choking on hard cider. In the end Harrison was victorious, beating Van Buren with an electoral margin of 234 to 60.



Julia

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“The Log-Cabin and Hard-Cider Campaign”

 


A “log cabin campaign” is when a president tries to portray himself as a “man of the people”.  The Whigs would imitate this idea from the Democrats in the campaign of William Henry Harrison in the Election of 1840. 


Harrison was shown to be a tough, yet average guy from the West. The Whigs would spread this idea and also make Harrison’s opponent, Martin Van Buren from the Democratic Party, look like a wealthy and snobby man who had no relations with the average citizen. In reality, it was the other way around. Harrison was from a very prosperous family, while Van Buren was poor and hard working.


To get some type of support from the South, the Whigs nominated John Tyler, former Senator of Virginia, as vice president.  Harrison and Tyler together would try to win the election by avoiding the important yet difficult issues such as slavery or the national bank. Harrison was also a military hero and used “Tippecanoe and Tyler too” for a slogan that would win the hearts of many.  They also used “Martin Van Ruin” to get an evil picture into the minds of the voters. Rumors and deceit made this campaign was one of the most entertaining in history. 


The election was during the worst economic depression that the world had seen (so far), and all the blame was on Van Buren and his national administration. Our nation was in debt, and his system of bonds had not been successful. Harrison determined to get into office, continued to campaign and won most of the votes in the long run.


In the end, the Whigs had great victory by stealing the Democrat’s idea of campaigning and using it against them.  Because of the lies spread about him, Van Buren would not receive many votes.  He could be seen as the bad guy, who had no relations to the average citizen and would not be able to view the needs of them, or so everyone thought.  If the real Van Buren and Harrison’s were shown in the election, I think it would have turned out a lot differently.


 



mre

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Kelsey Rae wrote:



 They planned to avoid discussion of difficult national issues such as slavery or the national bank.             


 


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The Whigs, in response to this, and still determined and eager to win, decided in order to do so, they must give the public what they wanted. 






 


Kelsey, when you mentioned that political parties avoided national issues like slavery and the bank, you made me think of current politicians and recent elections.  How do you think it's possible to bring up issues that candidates may be avoiding?  How can the voters determine the issues discussed and debated rather than the politicians?


You also mentioned that politicians then tried to give the public what it wanted.  This was the beginning of propagandizing elections.  I have two questions: what do you think voters really want in a candidate today and do you think it will ever be possible to have elections simply based on issues and not on image, presentation, personal style, etc.?


What does anyone think?



mre

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Kelsey, I'll ask you the same question I asked Jessica: what do you mean when you say that methods of accountability for the American judiciary changed?  Can you give me an example?

mre

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What did or can you find concerning how Native Americans lived after they had been removed from the land east of the Mississippi River?

mre

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Good job, Samantha. 

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