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This keeps popping up on my Facebook

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/10045-the-50-best-britpop-albums/?mbid=social_facebook

It's an interesting read and it's nice to see Pulp's "big three" albums all there. Also nice to see Suede's "Sci-fi Lullabies" b-sides collection alongside the likes of Teenage Fanclub and Ash. However, I'd have put Mansun further up the list, Oasis much further DOWN the list and I would have sneaked Gomez in there somewhere. Enjoy



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Interesting, I think I'm going to have to absorb it and have a think before I reply further. For quite a few years I felt a little embarrassed by much of 'Britpop' and when I saw your thread title I thought to myself that they'd be lucky to find 10 albums of any worth from that time but perhaps I'm somewhat misguided or just a little too close to it all.

First flush I'd say more Auteurs less Oasis and I'd have slipped Mars Audiac Quintet by Stereolab into the top 20. 



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Up to 1994/95, most that has had the misfortune to forever be tagged with the word is good and still holds-up. Most after '94/'95 is shit and doesn't.

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You're definitely wrong about all this y'know.

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Unless by 'tagged with' you're talking about the Me Me Me's, Speedy etc... Because if not you're wiping out half a decade of music.

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I haven't read the article but shite like Northern Uproar, Salad, Marion Menswear et al. shouldn't even have had their 3 minutes of fame while Oasis-lite Ocean Colour Scene and proto-bland Embrace being pretty huge was the anti-thesis to the weird, interesting and exciting music that St Etienne, Pulp and Suede produced which supposedly triggered the whole thing a few years earlier.

Edit: * Embrace being Coldplay proto-bland 

Bob Stanley from St Etienne wrote a really good article for Q a few years ago about how the early "movement" was exciting but how it turned sour and that ultimately everyone involved was complicit. I typed it out on here at the time, worth reading.



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Eamonn wrote:

I haven't read the article but shite like Northern Uproar, Salad, Marion Menswear et al. shouldn't even have had their 3 minutes of fame while Oasis-lite Ocean Colour Scene and proto-bland Embrace being pretty huge was the anti-thesis to the weird, interesting and exciting music that St Etienne, Pulp and Suede produced which supposedly triggered the whole thing a few years earlier.

I agree with this 100%, although I quite liked Marion, and I would also add Powder and Shed Seven and The Bluetones to that list. There was an interesting fairly experimental subculture going on at the time with bands like Laika, Pram, Stereolab, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Quickspace Supersport & Prolapse. A lot of what is called Britpop really is inspirationally bankrupt.



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I would probably also include an album by My Life Story, probably Mornington Crescent. In my opinion Jake Shillingford was pretty essential to the scene.

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Okay I'm sure you'll be pleased to know I'm with you on this.

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saw119 wrote:

I agree with this 100%, although I quite liked Marion



-- Edited by saw119 on Friday 31st of March 2017 10:12:54 AM

 So, like, 96% then?



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smile

Splatoon wrote:
saw119 wrote:

I agree with this 100%, although I quite liked Marion



-- Edited by saw119 on Friday 31st of March 2017 10:12:54 AM

 So, like, 96% then?

 I'll offer you a compromise at 98% smile



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It's just a bit sad that even now, twenty years plus on, expressing a love for some of the albums that fall under the umbrella always requires a caveat of "Britpop was awful except...". John Mulvey, editor of Uncut was at it this month talking about the article featured therein on Elastica, eulogising about them but scorning the other bands. Pretty sure he wrote plenty of gaga reviews of Pulp, Suede and probably many more at the time. We can all get serious and change our mind but it struck me as a bit too doth protesting too much.

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Eamonn wrote:

It's just a bit sad that even now, twenty years plus on, expressing a love for some of the albums that fall under the umbrella always requires a caveat of "Britpop was awful except...". John Mulvey, editor of Uncut was at it this month talking about the article featured therein on Elastica, eulogising about them but scorning the other bands. Pretty sure he wrote plenty of gaga reviews of Pulp, Suede and probably many more at the time. We can all get serious and change our mind but it struck me as a bit too doth protesting too much.

 Buyers remorse. Britpop had such a massive momentum like a runaway train but it derailed in pretty spectacular fashion. It was all very self congratulatory. The journalists who wrote during that time got very carried away and once the dust settled realised that whilst some of the music was exceptional they too often were swept away in the moment. I was listening to a Radio 4 Kaleidoscope doc on Blur and listening to Stuart Maconie speak you'd think Blur were the genuine second coming. Everyone just got a little giddy.



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Fair point. Maconie does get giddy quite a lot, about all sorts of stuff, even now, bless him.

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By the way there's one of those Britpop at the BBC comps on iPlayer at the moment.

It was a pretty exciting time to be around lest anyone get the wrong opinion of my view on the whole affair. Heady times!

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