Ian wrote:

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Well, what do you think?
Either way, it's still great and I'm going to see them in March.

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Its pretty good, but I have only heard it once.  New Morning excepted, dont think suede have made an average LP, but Dog Man Star is their peak and would be hard to be bettered.

I am off to see them in about 10 days time, will let you know how good they are 

 

 

 

-- Edited by ArrGee on Sunday 25th of September 2022 12:23:55 AM

I listened to a bit the other night and was enjoying it. Theyve had a solid second act after reforming, and although every band who reforms have their reasons - bands like Suede really set the bar and put others to shame with their post-reunion output. Solid rereleases and lots of new music & b-sides and a lot of touring.

I felt gutted when the Stone Roses Reformed as they talked a lot about new music, then eventually after a bunch of failed attempts at new music they released those two tracks, one was crap and the other was alright, then imploded again. But upon seeing the reunion gigs there was obviously lots of musical gas left in the tank going off the improvisations they were pulling out.

Pulp again was one where an LP could have materialized but just didnt. The release of After You & Jarvis hinting at potential new stuff in a couple of interviews really teased that hope - then nothing happened, and the bigger part of me expects this second reunion to yield no new music either, so its a shame. Suede show how it could be done.

legohairjordan wrote:

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 Suede really set the bar and put others to shame with their post-reunion output.

 Suede show how it could be done.

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Ian wrote:

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Suede really have set the bar high in terms of reunions.

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Having seen them last night, they have the freshness of a new band with an extensive back catalogue.  They played the whole of the new LP for starters and then in the second half mixed the post-2010 material with the pre-2000 songs almost seamlessly.  Best concert I have been to in a long time.  Not only setting bar high for reunions, suede are setting it high full stop.    

-- Edited by ArrGee on Thursday 6th of October 2022 01:08:13 PM

I saw Suede last night in Sheffield and they were just mindblowingly good. I thought the same as you Ian, it will be virtually impossible for other bands of their vintage to compete live. Brett was just on fire it was jaw dropping the effort he put in and that wonderful voice of his only seems to get better. They were absolutely world class and they're still producing vital artistic statements with each new album.

Eamonn wrote:

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Blimey, really? His between song chat will never be a patch on Jarv's. Certainly has a much stronger voice, mind.

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 Yeah, Brett doesn't really do between song chat but in every other way, let's just say that they have set an incredibly high bar. Also, it was a much more intimate venue with more atmosphere.

Eamonn wrote:

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Pulp '82! I'd love to see Brett's face if that was put to him!

It's gone straight in at number two, their highest album position since 1999 which is pretty impressive in a way. It took less than 20k sales to do that (with streaming even included, I believe) but given that it's their 4th album since reuniting in 2010, there's clearly no sign in slowing-down creatively.

I was crazy about them for a few years when I was at university and their early albums and bits and bobs after that will always be special to me but there's something about Brett's style (overwrought, insecure, lacking humour) that also comes through in his memoirs that turns me off a little, now. Also, their music style hasn't changed that much and the guitar sound sometimes feels samey/generic. Having said that, I know the new album has got great reviews everywhere so I'll check it out.

In some ways, I wish Pulp had put the hard yards in like Suede after reforming in 2012. I think we all would have settled for one new album in the past decade, let alone four! If Pulp had released 50 or so new songs in that time, I think we'd have got a an eclectic range of all sorts of material.

 

Suede have also been aggressive in their reissue policy, most of their 90s records have been deluxe'd/superdeluxe'd multiple times. They have an army of hardcore fans (actually called The Insatiable Ones) who to probably a large degree, keep the band ticking over, financially. They mobilised this week to buy/stream as many copies of the album as possible in order to get a good chart position.

In comparison to Pulp, whom I don't think have that number (1k-2k?) of obsessives but overall have a larger casual fanbase (Pulp's Spotify listeners per month is solidly over 2m, Suede's usually hovers jusr below the 1m mark) but yeah...it can be hard being a Pulp diehard when hibernation is the name of the game 90% of the time over the last 20 years.

Fair play to Suede though, great work ethic and still inspired to create. There's always at least a couple of really good songs on their new records and being without a major label, they have managed to make their middle-aged career work for them by consistent touring and creating new and rehashed-old product for their fans.

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 I just find Brett vaguely irritating, to be honest. Aside from 'Animal Nitrate', 'fraid I don't get the hype.

A new Pulp album would be incredible, but it'd have to be good! Hymn of the North is obviously incredible...

 

I really loved the album when it came out, and this is coming from someone who hasnt been big on their post-reunion albums

-- Edited by VintageFashionLover on Sunday 30th of July 2023 08:42:07 PM